Result of Abuse
The psychological and emotional abuse of members results in the individuals loss of identity, severe guilt and remorse complexes and social disorientation. The consequences of this for someone who leaves the cult are feelings of alienation, depression, betrayal and confusion. This in turn leads to a wish to end ones life, and in some cases, suicide.
1. Personality Changes. Relatives will say they no longer recognize the person. From a warm, loving personality will come heaped abuse, rejection and feelings of hate. The cult member sees himself as righteous in comparison and this comes across in their attitude toward all outsiders.
This is probably a major delineator between the BKWSU and cults that cause negative personality changes. The BKWSU have quite a different effect than the one described here. New members are heavily confronted by expectations that are well beyond anything most people would even consider. Hours of study and meditation every day that underlie a focus on being pure in every thought, word and action. The BKs, on the whole, are the nicest people you are likely to meet. Their focus on dharna is such that they make huge efforts to be respectful, well mannered and inoffensive. This is the most significant upside to following the BK path. Unfortunately the trauma of leaving the organisation is so disempowering that whatever has been gained as a BK is lost and ex members can find themselves in a quite dysfunctional space.
2. Loss Of Identity. They cannot see themselves as individuals apart from the group. Some even change their name as a rejection of their former life.
Hours of meditation and a constant process of reminding oneself “that I am a soul, the child of the Supreme” is all centred upon a generic understanding of self. That is to say every BK will be contemplating the same identity. Just as they all wear white as a uniform of conformity, their self understanding is also uniform and conformist. They effectively buy into a pre-packaged identity. That identity is dependent on belonging to the group. If someone were to leave the group then they have to leave the identity behind.The psychological ramifications of this are enormous. This is also the basis of the trauma that individuals experience when leaving a cult.
3. Paranoid – We Are Being Persecuted. Any time you say anything negative about the group, whether justified or not, it is regarded as persecution. Any criticism of the individual is also seen as persecution only because they are the true Christian or enlightened one – not because they, as an individual, have done the wrong thing. However, at the same time they will feel free to criticize whatever you believe, say and do because they are ‘the only ones who are right’.
The BKWSU membership do believe that they are the only ones who are right. But they have developed a spectacularly patronising attitude that frees them from feeling criticized. They are taught to feel pity for those who criticize because obviously they are lesser souls who do not have the spiritual power necessary to recognise the truth. With this view they see criticism as evidence of their superiority.
4. Social Disorientation. They lose their ability to socialize outside the group. This can go so far as to not being able to structure their time or make simple decisions for themselves when they leave.Their world-view alters and they perceive the world through their leaders eyes. They become very naive about life in general.
In the case of the BKs this is overwhelmingly true – through a constant process of ‘education’ and meditation, and by becoming ensconced in the BK lifestyle they effectively live in a bubble. The rules for communication and relationships within the group are very clear – there is a very defined social code much like one would find in a working environment. Dadi Janki always taught that a true BK has friendship with Shiva alone – effectively friendship was not allowed. It was considered attachment and therefore body conscious. The consequences for someone leaving the group can be severe as a result. They are socially disconnected because they have lost touch with the ever evolving social codes of normal society whilst they spent years isolated from normality. Their sense of self is very confused and their ability to be employed is significantly compromised.The net effect is that they are childlike, confused and naive after they leave the group.
5. Severe Guilt Complexes. They are made to feel guilty of everything they did before entering the group and are to strive to be good and worthy for eternal life. Misdemeanors are made into mountains so that members are in a constant state of guilt for infringing even the most minor rules. Guilt comes because they aren’t doing enough; entertaining doubts or questions; even thinking rationally for oneself. This guilt is piled upon pile with new rules or reminders constantly being laid downabout what is sinful and what is not. Illness may be seen as lack of faith – more guilt. Emotional illness may be seen as proof of sin in your life – more guilt.
Guilt and remorse are an ongoing experience for a BK. The expectation of absolute purity is so unrealistic that a BK will experience guilt every time they imagine they have failed in this obligation. Members are constantly reminded of the ‘correct’ way to think, speak and act. They are therefore constantly reminded of their mistakes. They will spend years trying to get it right. Many eventually come to the conclusion that it is not possible – only to feel ashamed for thinking like that. They are aware of the consequences of failure – that such failure is eternal and irreversible. This is a recipe for trauma.
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By Ed, June 15, 2009 @ 7:00 am
Yes I have experienced the patronising attitudes expressed in the article above.
After asking a few questions at a meeting{of I recall quite a mild type} I was actually literally patted on the head by an Indian sister who suggested that as I matured I would come to understand that they were right.
As a grown up male who is also a psychotherapist I found myself somewhere between astonishment and laughter at this extraordinary presumption and complete unawareness of the possible result of treating someone like this.
From what I have read and also inferred at the time that action was a real window into the values and attitudes of the whole organisation.
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By sunita, September 22, 2009 @ 6:15 am
i do not understand why these ppl. do not leave us alone i.e my husband,i think they are trying to break up my mairrage
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editor Reply:
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Hi Sunita. The BKs are only interested in their own advancement. they have no interest in your marriage. I have personally witnessed a number of marriages crash because of the BKWSU.
Make sure you stay in good communication with you husband. Be kind and NOT confronting. Find out exactly what his position is.
Depending on the type of relationship you have with your husband you will have to make a plan.
Keep in mind that the thing the BKs hate the most is trouble at their centres. Going to their centre and creating a storm will cause them to banish him from the centre because of his association with you – but that is no doubt an extreme last measure. But I have seen it done and I do know it works.
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Kei Reply:
March 16th, 2011 at 10:06 am
My boyfriend is a memeber of this group and he is trying to get me to join. Sunita how is your married life? My bf says he doenst want kids and we will have to practice celibacy. Should i get out now cause i know i want kids.
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filthy shudra Reply:
March 16th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Time to clarify the relationship – do you have the same goals, the same destination in mind? If not, going your separate ways sooner is best, rather than getting in each other’s way.
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Manju Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Yes sunita,
Even my mother-in-law who is a brahma kumari is trying to break my marriage…you wont believe she gives lectures in their institute…and create mess at home….they think v negative…also they get a lot of ego and attitude…they never think they r wrong…as they think they are strong believers of god. My mother-in-law thinks she is god now….coz brahma kumari people make them believe one can be god….
hence comes the ego and attitude…they are sick people…
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By windancer, September 22, 2009 @ 10:53 am
Hi I am new to the site. My sister has been in the BK’s for around 6 years now. It has gotten increasingly harder for me to cope with. Having lost many loved ones along the way, and now I feel to have lost her to the BK’s as well. constantly being afraid to hurt her any further, i stay quiet. i tried to tell her a few times how i see the changes.
I feel she judges me, even if she says she does not. i feel like nothing is important unless she thinks it is. all the little things i enjoy, sports, sex, eggs, fish… i feel she thinks i am body concious and i just dont understand. and i see that i want to live and enjoy being human. it is so very frustrating to see and there is nothing I can do. I do not know where to turn at times, and i just wan to shake her back to her old self. i feel they preyed on her at a time when she was week and didnt know if there was a god and yearned for belief.
i tried to go to the yoga classes because she wanted me there so bad. but i quickly saw right thru what was going on and just can not be around that environment any more. i just miss my sister, and feel i dont have anywhere to turn for help for her. i dont think i can say anything to make her see the truth. and anything i say, she will EXPECT from me, because they taught her too, because I dont have the KNOWLEDGE and i just dont UNDERSTAND, BLAH BLAH BLAH>>> any advice would be greatly listened to…. frustrated soul, windancer
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editor Reply:
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Dear Windancer. I sympathise with your situation and have seen it many times before. You are describing the feelings of many people who have lost loved ones to a cult.
What you say here: “I feel she judges me, even if she says she does not. i feel like nothing is important unless she thinks it is” – this is a normal BK attitude: only they know the truth, all others are body conscious and deceived by their senses. So yes, she is unavoidably judging you as an ignorant and lesser soul for enjoying a worldly life.
The Bks also associate with non BKs exclusively on their own terms, so yes only what she thinks important is.
Unfortunately when someone is so deeply embedded in the BKs there is pretty much nothing you can do but wait. Many wake up to themselves eventually, and then she will be needing you more than you can imagine.
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By TS, December 10, 2009 @ 8:59 am
Further more, why do the BK’s demand such a heavy figure of a lump sum which is equivalent to a Dowry? I think that’s just absurd and outrageous and could you really call that purity? I say no more.
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dude Reply:
April 30th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Hi, sorry but i was wondering by the sentence you just wrote, how much did the Brahma kumaris asked for? because i no a family that are a part of this organisation and they said to me that they have never asked to give any money but, they said if you feel like ‘donation’ then its up to you. I certainly did not know that the BKs ‘ASKED’ for a specific amount of money.
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By Linda, June 20, 2010 @ 1:21 am
Thanks for the information, I was very close to getting involved in BK, although I had some reservations. I guess I should always trust my instincts. Thanks again.
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By Kei, March 17, 2011 @ 5:37 am
But this is so hard…. i love him…we were making plans to get married then the bk came along……he is telling me that things wouldnt change in our relationship……I hate these people…just because they had their problems they dont want any one else to be happy……
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Brahma Kumaris Split Families Reply:
July 10th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Softly, softly the Brahma Kumaris catchee monkeys.
Whether it is the husband, whether it is the wife … they split couples and families apart and have always done so. They split them apart and when they catch one, they hope they will catch the whole family.
And of it is the wife, they encourage to take as much money from the non-BK husband and use the property for a BK center.
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By Tara, April 27, 2011 @ 1:55 pm
One word = DON’T
DON’T commit yourself to the BKS. Please.
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dude Reply:
April 30th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
why?
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By Kevin, April 28, 2011 @ 6:36 am
This message is for Shivani:
Knowledge is to be shared, evidently you have none.
As an ex bk you failed terribly, which is easily recognized in the way you express yourself.
Congratulations, because you have started your own cult organization with a minority of hypocrits who does not have the ability to understand basic human interactions.
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By Tara, April 30, 2011 @ 1:43 pm
Just browse through tax fraud and false claims and you will get your answer. To not join the BKs would be the best decision in the world.
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By filthy shudra, April 30, 2011 @ 6:57 pm
In reference to the last few posts -
It’s been revealed that the church of scientology get their serious adherents to sign a billion year contract committing themselves to the church (based on their own teachings of immortality).
A contract that includes unrealistic conditions is not legally enforceable in a court of law and is not worth the paper it is written on. But consider the “psychological” contract that is made.
The BKs have yet to go down the road of asking for a signature on paper (as far as i know) but every day in many small and large ways, a BK is psychologically asked to recommit to a contract for 5,000 years.
My emphasis isn’t on legal liberties to come and go, or that BKs are all bad or all good. I am saying that their group culture strongly emphasises “belonging” and “failing” – noted by Kevin two posts ago. This way of thinking is encouraged (read almost any Dadi janki class or murli). It is a most sublime form of psychological coercion and abuse.
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Brahma Kumaris Split Families Reply:
July 10th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
In the old days, may be still in come centers, the BKs did make their followers to sign letters of faith and hand them to the leaders. It is sort of the same.
Of course, they also ask followers to donate everything in Wills.
Scientology only demands One Billion years.
The Brahma Kumaris believe it is for eternity … according to them, there is no escape from samsara ever.
If you go through hell in this life … you go through hell for this life forever and ever and ever. If you were raped in this life, it means you will be rape ever 5,000 years. If you are starving, suffering from cancer, kids killed … you go through that hell forever and ever and ever.
No wonder it is a religion for the rich in India.
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By Tara, July 9, 2011 @ 1:51 pm
Just a simple question! Why does the traffic light show red? Red = danger! Red = stop! So come on guys it’s dangerous to cross through a red traffic light and it’s dangerous my point exactly of the BKs to even be involved with them in any way!
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By omshanti, August 2, 2011 @ 4:31 am
Om Shanti!
I love my Baba! He is my guide, my best friend, my soul mate, my true guide. He is simply the world’s benefactor. He is the one and he is God!
I talk to him daily, and he calls me daily in response too.
I cannot find the words to describe the changes that I have come across since I did the transformation course and stress management course in India.
I feel great! I feel happy! I feel so peaceful and relaxed!
Please dear souls, do not speak badly, why this website, it is heartbreaking, let the bks come forward and do their work in purity.
They are the rulers, and they will take over the world!
OM SHANTI!
om1
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editor Reply:
October 11th, 2011 at 3:23 am
Your tripped out thinking demonstrates how dippy you have to be a BK!
“They are the rulers, and they will take over the world!”
Are you hearing yourself!
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By Ankit, March 24, 2012 @ 9:41 am
Hi!!!!!!!!
All dear friends,
I feel you people have never ever experienced the true love of god . “The pure point of light energy”.
You all our lovely brothers and sisters and we cant think ever ill of yours ever.
So , please dont write any thing against of BRAHMA KUMARIS WORLD SPIRITUAL UNIVERSITY. They all are good and genuine and very selected soul of GOD
And If you do any thing try to ill of them then??????????
GOD IS WITH US AND EVERY BODY HAS TO SETTLE THE KARMIC ACCOUNT
OM SHANTI
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By Chanda, May 17, 2012 @ 7:32 am
Once these people enter BK, they dont pay attention to home responsibilities…..when they dont get enjoyment, they cant see others happy…be it their own family people……they are sick to the core…think no-end to themseleves…and horribly force people to enter their nautanki community…….
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