Comments on: Ex-BKs share their experience http://bkwsuwatch.com Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:32:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: filthy shudra http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-629 filthy shudra Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:32:24 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-629 Arvind, A good life well lived involves right thought and action, respect for others & for self, good health and honest work, along with love of family and friends. You'd agree? This has been understood, lived and taught by many throughout history, both theist and atheist, rationalists or spiritualist. What you should do is look to the wisdom within yourself, live life simply and don't let it be distorted by anyone telling you what you "should" do!! :-) Arvind,

A good life well lived involves right thought and action, respect for others & for self, good health and honest work, along with love of family and friends. You’d agree?

This has been understood, lived and taught by many throughout history, both theist and atheist, rationalists or spiritualist. What you should do is look to the wisdom within yourself, live life simply and don’t let it be distorted by anyone telling you what you “should” do!! :-)

]]> By: filthy shudra http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-607 filthy shudra Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:08:26 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-607 Be good and you need no god Be good and you need no god

]]> By: TheTruthIsFromGod http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-606 TheTruthIsFromGod Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:37:31 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-606 you can worship God by your own, no one needs any of these sects. Be good and God will guide you you can worship God by your own, no one needs any of these sects.

Be good and God will guide you

]]> By: TheTruthIsFromGod http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-605 TheTruthIsFromGod Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:57:01 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-605 Only God makes the rules, your rules have no value and will only bring you more perdition, more suffering, more pain, more darkness... The Truth of God is limited to those who are truly guided by God, those who are truly submitted to God, those who believe in God as the Sole and Unique God, with no partners, no sons, no intermediaries, those who believe in the angels and prophets of God as Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, those who believe in the Judgement Day, those who believe in Hell and Paradise, those who believe in God's TRUE Holy Books, the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran prevails and is 100% unaltered. My mother is part of your sect and I am very well placed to say that you have nothing to do with the Straight Path of God, you're rather among the most deceived people, you're fully deceived by the satanic New Age doctrine, if you continue in this path, your fate is eternal hell. Take that bet and see when you'll be dead... You'll see that your dear Braham Baba has not the least power and cannot even save himself from the flames of hell... Enjoy your life ennemies of God, you'll have no share in the hereafter. Only God makes the rules, your rules have no value and will only bring you more perdition, more suffering, more pain, more darkness…

The Truth of God is limited to those who are truly guided by God, those who are truly submitted to God, those who believe in God as the Sole and Unique God, with no partners, no sons, no intermediaries, those who believe in the angels and prophets of God as Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, those who believe in the Judgement Day, those who believe in Hell and Paradise, those who believe in God’s TRUE Holy Books, the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran prevails and is 100% unaltered.

My mother is part of your sect and I am very well placed to say that you have nothing to do with the Straight Path of God, you’re rather among the most deceived people, you’re fully deceived by the satanic New Age doctrine, if you continue in this path, your fate is eternal hell.

Take that bet and see when you’ll be dead… You’ll see that your dear Braham Baba has not the least power and cannot even save himself from the flames of hell… Enjoy your life ennemies of God, you’ll have no share in the hereafter.

]]> By: TheTruthIsFromGod http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-604 TheTruthIsFromGod Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:49:16 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-604 I know this kind of language, this is pure rethoric, everything is fake in your practices because you're simply not with God. God has nothing to do with your gurus, God is directly accessible to the righteous and fair ones. God does not forbid what is good for us (like food, wedding, to sleep in the night, ....), God does not ask for money, God does not hide behind possessed witches, God does not like the pride elitist persons that most of the BKs are. You are not gods, you are not elites, you are among the most lost people of these end times and when you'll die, you'll face the One True God Who will judge you for the LEAST of your actions...Be prepared ennemies of God. I know this kind of language, this is pure rethoric, everything is fake in your practices because you’re simply not with God. God has nothing to do with your gurus, God is directly accessible to the righteous and fair ones. God does not forbid what is good for us (like food, wedding, to sleep in the night, ….), God does not ask for money, God does not hide behind possessed witches, God does not like the pride elitist persons that most of the BKs are. You are not gods, you are not elites, you are among the most lost people of these end times and when you’ll die, you’ll face the One True God Who will judge you for the LEAST of your actions…Be prepared ennemies of God.

]]> By: TheTruthIsFromGod http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-603 TheTruthIsFromGod Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:23:29 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-603 My mother has been part of the BKs for 10 years, I confirm most of the previous stories: she only eats what she prepares herself (of her BK group), she wakes up between 3AM and 4AM to meditate with a read light, she practices celibacy (she pushed my father to divorce), she is more and more distant from us (her own family), she has totaly dropped any conventional morality (she has not educated at all my younger sister),.... everything is OK for her as long as you practice undcontional love.... My mother was previously muslim and now claims to be a highly evoluted/illuminated muslim...whatever is your orignal belief, the BKs appropriate to themselves their original belief and claim to be the elite of it. This is very classical with the new age beliefs...I deeply think that all these new agers are exactly the opposite of what they claim to be: they are not humble, not straighful, not righteous, not generous, not submitted to God.....they are the exact opposite and think they are kind of deities. The most disturbing thing with the BKs is their TOTAL blindness, .... you simply cannot discuss with them, THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING, they only hear what they want to hear, they even distort the sense of the most common words and principles... The only good method is to totaly ignore them...for my part, I simply do not discuss this subject with my mother, it's a pure loss of time, let them, they are the only ones who can wake up themselves. All I am sure about is that people have nothing to do with God... they don't know anything about the True Nature of God. My mother has been part of the BKs for 10 years, I confirm most of the previous stories: she only eats what she prepares herself (of her BK group), she wakes up between 3AM and 4AM to meditate with a read light, she practices celibacy (she pushed my father to divorce), she is more and more distant from us (her own family), she has totaly dropped any conventional morality (she has not educated at all my younger sister),…. everything is OK for her as long as you practice undcontional love…. My mother was previously muslim and now claims to be a highly evoluted/illuminated muslim…whatever is your orignal belief, the BKs appropriate to themselves their original belief and claim to be the elite of it.

This is very classical with the new age beliefs…I deeply think that all these new agers are exactly the opposite of what they claim to be: they are not humble, not straighful, not righteous, not generous, not submitted to God…..they are the exact opposite and think they are kind of deities.

The most disturbing thing with the BKs is their TOTAL blindness, …. you simply cannot discuss with them, THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING, they only hear what they want to hear, they even distort the sense of the most common words and principles…

The only good method is to totaly ignore them…for my part, I simply do not discuss this subject with my mother, it’s a pure loss of time, let them, they are the only ones who can wake up themselves.

All I am sure about is that people have nothing to do with God… they don’t know anything about the True Nature of God.

]]> By: Distant observer http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-602 Distant observer Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:28:48 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-602 The TV channel Star Plus, is showing morning programme with the BK's. I think this should be stopped, as vulnerable people are being exposed to this. The TV channel Star Plus, is showing morning programme with the BK’s. I think this should be stopped, as vulnerable people are being exposed to this.

]]> By: Distant observer http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-601 Distant observer Tue, 06 Sep 2011 13:35:18 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-601 Hi, Thought I'd share my opinion, as I have recently come across BK's. I've been going through a difficult time in my life recently and looking for direction. I recently watched some programmes on TV with Sister Shivani being interviewed by Suresh Oberoi. At first I became really interested and started getting up early to watch it. I then found their website and found that there is a centre near me, so I called and booked myself into one of their day retreats as I want to learn how to meditate and thought why not learn from this peaceful group, who do not seem to restrict you in anyway. Then on the last episodes, Suresh asked the question of Bk's being accused of breaking up families as husbands and wives end up living like brother and sister i.e no sex. For every other question Sister Shivani, went into alot of detail and spoke at length, but to this question she just smiled and said "yes we practice celibacy". Suresh did not question her anymore. This made me feel uncomfortable, as I would like o get married and have children. So I started to do a bit more research and have come across this site and I'm glad I did. I've decided not to attend the day retreat, I know that people have said go along and take what you want from it and leave the rest, but I know this is not always easy and I know it won't be easy for me. So thank you for this site. I think it enables people who are both for and against BK's to give their true opinions and allows people like myself to make up our minds too. Having read all the comments, it hasn't made me think badly of the Bk's as from what I've seen and heard alot of them are loving and peaceful people. However, I do think that their ideologies are a bit unrealistic. Hi,

Thought I’d share my opinion, as I have recently come across BK’s.
I’ve been going through a difficult time in my life recently and looking for direction. I recently watched some programmes on TV with Sister Shivani being interviewed by Suresh Oberoi. At first I became really interested and started getting up early to watch it. I then found their website and found that there is a centre near me, so I called and booked myself into one of their day retreats as I want to learn how to meditate and thought why not learn from this peaceful group, who do not seem to restrict you in anyway. Then on the last episodes, Suresh asked the question of Bk’s being accused of breaking up families as husbands and wives end up living like brother and sister i.e no sex. For every other question Sister Shivani, went into alot of detail and spoke at length, but to this question she just smiled and said “yes we practice celibacy”. Suresh did not question her anymore. This made me feel uncomfortable, as I would like o get married and have children. So I started to do a bit more research and have come across this site and I’m glad I did. I’ve decided not to attend the day retreat, I know that people have said go along and take what you want from it and leave the rest, but I know this is not always easy and I know it won’t be easy for me. So thank you for this site. I think it enables people who are both for and against BK’s to give their true opinions and allows people like myself to make up our minds too. Having read all the comments, it hasn’t made me think badly of the Bk’s as from what I’ve seen and heard alot of them are loving and peaceful people. However, I do think that their ideologies are a bit unrealistic.

]]> By: Brahma Kumaris Split Families http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-600 Brahma Kumaris Split Families Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:15:26 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-600 The Brahma Kumaris prey on people going through vulnerable phases. Your story is one of 100s, if not 1,000s. They also split families and have done for the 70s years of their existence. They are ultimately spiritual parasites who have not turned their religion into a business. You have to remember, in India during the 50s and 60s, they ran out of money. A load of husbandless old woman with no skill or education. They had done nothing with their lives ... what does that mean in India? They would have had to become beggars or died. In India, there is no social security. They had no other option but to turn their commune life into a religion and live off just like the priest, gurus and pandits do. Now they are becoming greedy addicts to the material benefits their game gives them. You have to understand them from their beginnings in India. The Brahma Kumaris prey on people going through vulnerable phases. Your story is one of 100s, if not 1,000s. They also split families and have done for the 70s years of their existence.

They are ultimately spiritual parasites who have not turned their religion into a business.

You have to remember, in India during the 50s and 60s, they ran out of money. A load of husbandless old woman with no skill or education. They had done nothing with their lives … what does that mean in India? They would have had to become beggars or died. In India, there is no social security.

They had no other option but to turn their commune life into a religion and live off just like the priest, gurus and pandits do.

Now they are becoming greedy addicts to the material benefits their game gives them.

You have to understand them from their beginnings in India.

]]> By: Tara http://bkwsuwatch.com/duty-of-care/ex-bks-sharing-their-experience/#comment-599 Tara Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:01:13 +0000 http://bkwsuwatch.com/?page_id=332#comment-599 I can relate to you in many ways. I also thought the BKs were lovely in the beginning even the one's in India. I went to Madhuban once - and once only. I went on a transformation course, but a wrong transformation course it was. They are so powerful the BKs. Their traffic controls, their rules. I'm so glad that I have turned away from the centre and am trying to get my life back on track in the right direction. Buying their products is their way of making all the money, they don't pressure you to buy it - sometimes they just recommend it and you feel obliged because it's holy material and think that they are godesses and gods or angels. India really changed me in an unusual way and I'm so glad that I am back in the UK leading a normal life. I still believe in Hinduism but not the Bks teaching of life. I think that it is all wrong and too demanding. So to anyone new here try to stay away from them. They just don't charge for the meditation classes as a way to attract people to come in to their centres. You don't learn meditation straight away. They tell you about their principles and the 5 vices etc. Don't fall for it. That's just the beginning of a taste of heaven when in actual fact that it's not! Basically it's all crap! Don't let them rule you or take over your lives! I can relate to you in many ways.
I also thought the BKs were lovely in the beginning even the one’s in India.
I went to Madhuban once – and once only.
I went on a transformation course, but a wrong transformation course it was.
They are so powerful the BKs. Their traffic controls, their rules. I’m so glad that I have turned away from the centre and am trying to get my life back on track in the right direction. Buying their products is their way of making all the money, they don’t pressure you to buy it – sometimes they just recommend it and you feel obliged because it’s holy material and think that they are godesses and gods or angels.
India really changed me in an unusual way and I’m so glad that I am back in the UK leading a normal life.
I still believe in Hinduism but not the Bks teaching of life.
I think that it is all wrong and too demanding.
So to anyone new here try to stay away from them. They just don’t charge for the meditation classes as a way to attract people to come in to their centres. You don’t learn meditation straight away.
They tell you about their principles and the 5 vices etc.
Don’t fall for it. That’s just the beginning of a taste of heaven when in actual fact that it’s not! Basically it’s all crap! Don’t let them rule you or take over your lives!

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